i have an awesome tb/qtr gelding has done gymkhana and been around cattle loads ties clipps baths shoes he 16-17 hand but dont let his size intimidate you he is a sweet heart hes just to slow for me no hurry to sell him so if intrested you can e mail me for pics he would be perfect for someone starting out in gymkhana or just wanting to ride every day i would trade him for a horse with speed or just to spunky for you broke that is thank you